Saturday June 5: ACH to Big Bear

Jerome Daoust · « **on:** 06/01/10 10:43PM »

WHEN: Saturday, June 5 at 9:00 am (KSU time, so arrive before)
MEET: Chevron, at corner of Red Hill & MacArthur (see map link below)
ROUTE: See map below
SKILL LEVEL: ~~Noobie~~, Intermediate, Expert*

Map of the route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Red+Hill+Ave&daddr=Foothill+Blvd+to:Upper+Big+Tujunga+Canyon+Rd+to:Evergreen+Rd+to:Lone+Pine+Canyon+Rd+to:Big+Bear+Blvd+to:CA-38+W+to:34.069938,-117.133226+to:S+Main+St&geocode=FcQeAgIdlqv5-A%3BFcLCCgId5aPy-A%3BFZSLCwIdbAT2-A%3BFbVLDAId7wz9-A%3BFWTNCwIdJPj9-A%3BFQuECgId_DII-Q%3BFdh2CQIdmMgK-Q%3B%3BFaI2AgIdYnn5-A&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=3,4&mrsp=7&sz=14&via=2,4,6&sll=34.076266,-117.137604&sspn=0.060856,0.103855&ie=UTF8&ll=34.050384,-117.522125&spn=0.997867,1.661682&z=10

300 miles and about 6 1/2 hours of riding.

Point A: Start and gas station: Chevron at the corner of Red Hill & MacArthur.
Point B: Shell station at corner of Foothill Blvd and Oro Vista Ave in Sunland. Second meetup location: Be here before 10 am and wait for me.
Point C: Evergreen Cafe in Wrightwood for lunch and re-fuel nearby.
Point D: Denny's in Big Bear for short break.
Point E: Gas station: Valero at corner of Opal and Mentone in Redlands.
Point F: End at gas station: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur.

See pictures of last weekend on ACH.

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Skill Levels Defined:

Noobie -

You have been riding your motorcycle for at least 3 months (hopefully more) and have confidence that you can ride around streets without any issues eg. stopping at stop lights, not stalling the bike, not falling over etc, making u-turns, etc.

Intermediate -

You have been riding for at least 6 months (hopefully more) and feel comfortable enough to handle twisty roads as found in local canyons. You are mature enough to understand going slow is okay and not to try and keep up with riders that are faster than you as it will result in a crash.

Expert -

You have been riding for years and hopefully been riding with the members going on the ride long enough to know how they ride.

Rabbit · « **Reply #1 on:** 06/02/10 01:54AM »

Sounds like a blast except I might be doing the James Liu Memorial Ride that day.

EndlÈÉsss · « **Reply #2 on:** 06/02/10 01:44PM »

r u sure wrightwood to ach - newcombs ranch is open? i checked with the restaurant, and they said its closed, and to take alternate routes.

Jerome Daoust · « **Reply #3 on:** 06/02/10 02:07PM »

Quote from: endleesss on 06/02/10 01:44PM

r u sure wrightwood to ach - Newcomb's Ranch is open? i checked with the restaurant, and they said its closed, and to take alternate routes.

Thanks you for the heads-up.
The ACH part of the route (with detour to start from Sunland) would be the same I did this Monday, but maybe there is a change since then.
On the Newcomb's Ranch website they do say ACH is closed from Wrightwood.
I will also call the restaurant for the final word and re-plan this trip to avoid ACH altogether since most of ACH would be closed.

Thank you!

EndlÈÉsss · « **Reply #4 on:** 06/02/10 02:27PM »

here's a map of the detour

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110354428543793565841.000487aa8e0bd14b614a0&z=10

stormy · « **Reply #5 on:** 06/02/10 02:37PM »

sunday sunday sunday!!!!!!!

Dan · « **Reply #6 on:** 06/02/10 02:44PM »

damn this looks like a great ride. i got dentist appointment in the morning. hope u do another one next week as well.

Jerome Daoust · « **Reply #7 on:** 06/02/10 02:51PM »

Quote from: endleesss on 06/02/10 02:27PM

here's a map of the detour
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110354428543793565841.000487aa8e0bd14b614a0&z=10

Thanks, That matches their advertised info...

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From Wrightwood - ROAD CLOSED, use alternate:
Alternate Route from Wrightwood during Seasonal Closure
Take CA-138 (Pearblossom Highway) to Sierra Highway
At Soledad Pass, take Angeles Forest Highway SOUTH for approximately 16 miles
Turn Left on Upper Big Tujunga
for approximately 9 miles
Turn Left on Angeles Crest Highway
for approximately 8 miles
Arrive at Newcomb’s Ranch on the Left side

Since we would end up avoiding ACH with detours on both LA and Wrightwood side, it would no longer make sense to try to include ACH for this ride. Still trying to get them on the phone myself (626-440-1001) as a final check.

Dan · « **Reply #8 on:** 06/02/10 03:09PM »

i did half of this alternate ride before. 15 to big bear to the 10. now that i have a trailer i would be more inclined to trail a few bikes to the mcdonalds of the the 15 and doa double take back to it......eeither way staying tuned for next week.

stormy · « **Reply #9 on:** 06/02/10 03:12PM »

current closures on hwy 2

SR 2
[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
IS CLOSED FROM 2 MI EAST OF THE EAST JCT OF I 210 TO 14 MI EAST OF
LA CANADA (LOS ANGELES CO) - DUE TO STORM DAMAGE REPAIR - MOTORISTS ARE
ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

1-800-427-7623

This looks like the first route works

EndlÈÉsss · « **Reply #10 on:** 06/02/10 03:35PM »

7hr ride, ur nutz my friend. im officially calling this one the ocmoto endurance ride =) ride safe, stay hydrated

Jerome Daoust · « **Reply #11 on:** 06/02/10 04:02PM »

Quote from: stormy on 06/02/10 03:12PM

current closures on hwy 2

SR 2
[IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA]
IS CLOSED FROM 2 MI EAST OF THE EAST JCT OF I 210 TO 14 MI EAST OF
LA CANADA (LOS ANGELES CO) - DUE TO STORM DAMAGE REPAIR - MOTORISTS ARE
ADVISED TO USE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE

1-800-427-7623

This looks like the first route works

Yes, I was looking at the same info ==> So we would only need to do the same detour on LA side like I did on Monday.
I'm trying to reach the restaurant myself (they are not answering) for their latest comments, to resolve this one way or another.

stormy · « **Reply #12 on:** 06/02/10 04:06PM »

I doubt the resteraunt will be open as you currently have to back track to get there

Jerome Daoust · « **Reply #13 on:** 06/02/10 04:24PM »

Quote from: stormy on 06/02/10 04:06PM

I doubt the resteraunt will be open as you currently have to back track to get there

Yes, if ACH is closed on both sides of that restaurant they would not have much business, which is supporting the new closure likelyhood.

For what it's worth...
Called Grizzly Cafe in Wrightwood (760-249-6713) and they say there is no change since Monday, with the only closure being on LA side.
Called Caltrans (1-800-427-7623) but the computer voice simply repeats the info posted on their website.

stormy · « **Reply #14 on:** 06/02/10 04:27PM »

yeah caltrans says its only closed at the begining of the 2 that route avoids it and it's open to wrightwood

ineedspeed · « **Reply #15 on:** 06/02/10 04:31PM »

Grizzly Cafe will be open since it's in Wrightwood and Newcomb's is only open Friday through Sunday.

nube · « **Reply #16 on:** 06/02/10 04:43PM »

We were there this weekend. We started from the Wrightwood side and it was closed just before Mt. Wilson.

This is the route we took to get down:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=102771467801581162582.000488149a6ba8107e3cc&ll=34.254521,-118.245678&spn=0.067538,0.179901&z=13

Careful at the beginning of Big Tujunga Canyon as the road was kind of washed away and you'll be kind of off roading for 100ft or so, after that it's pretty smooth.

Also there are lots of rocks/boulders in places on ACH so keep your eyes peeled.

Jerome Daoust · « **Reply #17 on:** 06/02/10 05:00PM »

Quote from: nube on 06/02/10 04:43PM

We were there this weekend. We started from the Wrightwood side and it was closed just before Mt. Wilson.This is the route we took to get down:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=102771467801581162582.000488149a6ba8107e3cc&ll=34.254521,-118.245678&spn=0.067538,0.179901&z=13
Careful at the beginning of Big Tujunga Canyon as the road was kind of washed away and you'll be kind of off roading for 100ft or so, after that it's pretty smooth. Also there are lots of rocks/boulders in places on ACH so keep your eyes peeled.

I agree with all you say because I took that detour 2 days ago (Monday): Double ACH ride.

ineedspeed · « **Reply #18 on:** 06/02/10 05:03PM »

Quote from: Jerome Daoust on 06/02/10 05:00PM

Quote from: nube on 06/02/10 04:43PM
We were there this weekend. We started from the Wrightwood side and it was closed just before Mt. Wilson.This is the route we took to get down:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?doflg=ptm&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=102771467801581162582.000488149a6ba8107e3cc&ll=34.254521,-118.245678&spn=0.067538,0.179901&z=13
Careful at the beginning of Big Tujunga Canyon as the road was kind of washed away and you'll be kind of off roading for 100ft or so, after that it's pretty smooth. Also there are lots of rocks/boulders in places on ACH so keep your eyes peeled.
I agree with all you say because i took that detour 2 days ago (Monday): Double ACH ride.

I called the hardware store in Wrightwood (760-249-3653) and Victor said there is a new closure since Monday, between Wrightwood and Newcomb's Ranch restaurant.

That's not good. Probably due to all the rocks coming down due to the snow runoff. I hope its only a short term closure.

Jerome Daoust · « **Reply #19 on:** 06/02/10 05:12PM »

Quote from: Agustin on 06/02/10 04:31PM

Grizzly Cafe will be open since it's in Wrightwood and Newcomb's is only open Friday through Sunday.

Hi Agustin,
I was asking Grizzly Cafe if ACH West of them was open (not if their restaurant was open).

Not sure which days Newcomb's Ranch is supposed to be open during the week, because there is conflicting info...
On their website main page they have:

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We're Finally Open!
Fridays 12:00 Noon - 8:00 PM
Saturdays 8:00AM - 8:00 PM
Sundays 7:00 AM - 8:00 PM

and on their contact page (and answering machine)

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Hours
8am to 10pm – Monday through Friday
7am to 10pm – Saturday, Sunday, & Holidays
Open 7 days a week

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