Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am

[Jerome Daoust]

WHEN: Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am (KSU time, so arrive before)
MEET: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur (see map link below)
ROUTE: See map below
SKILL LEVEL: Noobie, Intermediate, Expert*

292 miles and about 7 hours of riding (not counting stops).
Highlights: Double dose of... Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade.

Because of the forecasted high temperature in Borrego Springs (107 F in the shade) for Saturday, this ride avoids that valley. So no "Montezuma" but more of the twisties in the cooler areas, like...
Mesa Grande rd when riding by lake Henshaw to Julian. Picture gallery. It's #15 in the West Coast Rides

Map of the route   <-- Click me.
Point A: Start and gas station: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur.
Point B: Gas station: Chevron on Ortega, on East side of 5 Fwy. 2nd meetup location: Be here before 8:20 am and wait for me.
Point C: Gas station: In Pala. 3rd meetup location: Be here before 9:30 am and wait for me.
Point D: Lunch break: Apple Country Restaurant.
Point E: Gas station: In Santa Ysabel.
Point F: Turn-around at bottom of Banner Grade.
Reverse route, with stops at above points...
Point C: Gas station: In Pala.
Gas station: Shell in San Juan Capistrano.

************* Skill Levels Defined: Noobie - You have been riding your motorcycle for at least 3 months (hopefully more) and have confidence that you can ride around streets without any issues eg. stopping at stop lights, not stalling the bike, not falling over etc, making u-turns, etc. Intermediate - You have been riding for at least 6 months (hopefully more) and feel comfortable enough to handle twisty roads as found in local canyons. You are mature enough to understand going slow is okay and not to try and keep up with riders that are faster than you as it will result in a crash. Expert - You have been riding for years and hopefully been riding with the members going on the ride long enough to know how they ride.

[Dee Dub]

I'm considering this...(& back the way we came)
Join forces?

[Clem Kevin]

I might do this if I work monday.

[Jerome Daoust]

I'm considering this...(& back the way we came)
Join forces?

Yes, I fine-tuned the route now starting in Santa Ana and the stops.

For those joining, let me know at which meet point (A in Santa Ana, B in San Juan Capistrano or C in Pala) so I know where to expect you.

Bring your camera, because the road she is pretty.

[Dee Dub]

Are you firm on the time?  (ealier perhaps? hint/hint... )

BTW
Julian Hi:80° Lo:55°
Escondido Hi:82° Lo:62°
Palomar Hi:83° Lo:60°

[Jerome Daoust]

Are you firm on the time?  (ealier perhaps?)

Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

Temperature-wise, low 80's is great. By avoiding the Borrego Springs valley floor, we are already making ourselves comfortable.

[littletim67]

Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

To each there own, but 9 am early? We would normally leave Ortega and the 5 around 6:30-7:00 when we did these rides.

I might be going out with some other people so maybe we'll see you on the road.

[Twisted Wrist]

Just did that ride yesterday folks....highly recommend it!!!  Its beautiful right now and all the roads are clear of debris.

[Jerome Daoust]

Just did that ride yesterday folks....highly recommend it!!!  Its beautiful right now and all the roads are clear of debris.

Thanks for sharing pictures of your ride.

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks. 

[Dee Dub]

Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

To each there own, but 9 am early? We would normally leave Ortega and the 5 around 6:30-7:00 when we did these rides.

I might be going out with some other people so maybe we'll see you on the road.

What he said...(well, maybe NOT 7:00...)
We are planning to be passing at the Ortega by about 8:30 (not too much ealier).
...Should you change your mind (I'll be watching)...

[Ducatista]

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks. 

This one's just a bit too long for my limited stamina.  Hubby and I were on the brink of joining you last Sat, but the uncertainty of the road quality pushed me off the fence on the chicken side.  Now, given that I'm an old married woman, I might not be in the demographic that you had in mind!

[Jerome Daoust]

Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

We would normally leave Ortega and the 5 around 6:30-7:00 when we did these rides.

What he said...(well, maybe NOT 7:00...) We are planning to be passing at the Ortega by about 8:30 (not too much ealier). Should you change your mind (I'll be watching)...

You guys can have the "early worm".

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks. 

This one's just a bit too long for my limited stamina.  Hubby and I were on the brink of joining you last Sat, but the uncertainty of the road quality pushed me off the fence on the chicken side.  Now, given that I'm an old married woman, I might not be in the demographic that you had in mind!

This old man says: Once a chick, always a chick.

[Twisted Wrist]

Haha, yeah, I dont know if I have a good answer for that. Most lady riders are usually partnered with a male rider as was the case on my ride.  There just arent a lot of women riders yet in the world, and of them, not a lot like to do longer rides in my opinion/observations.  In 20 years I have only ridden with 3 independent women, out enjoying the rides on their own initiative without a hubby or boyfriend influencing the choices.  I ended up dating two of them! LOL.

Just did that ride yesterday folks....highly recommend it!!!  Its beautiful right now and all the roads are clear of debris.

Thanks for sharing pictures of your ride.

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks. 

[BMW mike]

Grrrrrr Busy this weekend next week for sure getting stir-crazy and feel the need for speed... 

[DiamondDave]

Jerome'
You guys have a GREAT RIDE and be safe buddy!! I would so be in for this but I feel the need for some off road speed and getting dirty  I'll be riding around Wildomar/Elsinore with a few others tomorrow at 8am...Going to knock out a couple 30 mile loops.

If you see a 2stk KTM in the back of a white Z71 wave as you run by...

Catch you on another one of these runs soon...I need a 6 States reunion 
~DDave

[Jerome Daoust]

Ok Ok, I shifted this ride to happen 1 hour earlier, details have been updated.

I will try not being grumpy in the morning.

[Dee Dub]

Coffee!

...see you at the Chevron!

[farschad]

i too may join you guys.darn early.you guys must have sleeping problems,wake up early everyday and just want to sleep in a little on the weekend but no...Lol cant keep everyone happy. jerome can i get your cell phone just in case i am running late then i can catch up maybe else where with ya ? pm me.tks

[Jerome Daoust]

Jerome can i get your cell phone just in case i am running late then i can catch up maybe else where with ya ? pm me.tks

Shocker...  I have no cell phone! All the 20 and 30 year olds must be gasping. Yes, one can live without one.
I will be carrying my girlfriend's phone (pink) for the day for emergencies, but leave it off inside my backpack.
I hope you can meet us at the pre-arranged locations/times, this will be a great ride.

[legallyfast]

Ride safe all, I will be spending time with the family tomorrow