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Oil burning CBR1000RR
« on: 10/10/10 01:19PM »
So a week ago I found out that my 08 CBR1000RR is burning oil at the rate of approx. 1.5 liters per 1000 miles.  After doing some research on the cbr1000rr.net forums I've come to find out that it's actually a pretty common/well-known issue with no permanent solutions.  Guys have had honda replace the piston rings to dropping in a whole new top end on the motor and still have this oil burning issue.  So my question to you gearheads is what could be done to slow down if not eliminate this oil burning issue completely?  Heavier oil? Forged pistons?

Your thoughts please.  :8:

- K

EDIT: Forgot to mention, under high load (on a dyno) it was spewing gray/dark smoke like no one's business.  Didn't seem to effect the power though, 147.4 hp on a bone stock bike.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #1 on: 10/10/10 01:26PM »
Just keep it full. Not much else I have heard fixes it.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #2 on: 10/10/10 01:28PM »
Mine burnt 1/2 qt every 300 miles.
I took it to the local Honda dealer where they have done this before.
The key is that the dealer needs to know how to work with Honda to meet Honda's requirements.
My dealer does.  
In 1 week, it was completed, and after the re-ring, I have put 3,000 miles on her and 0 oil consumption.

I recommend taking it back to the dealer and having it done right.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #3 on: 10/10/10 01:39PM »
Mine burnt 1/2 qt every 300 miles.
I took it to the local Honda dealer where they have done this before.
The key is that the dealer needs to know how to work with Honda to meet Honda's requirements.
My dealer does.  
In 1 week, it was completed, and after the re-ring, I have put 3,000 miles on her and 0 oil consumption.

I recommend taking it back to the dealer and having it done right.

Which dealer was it that successfully rehabilitated your bike?  Mission motorsports?

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #4 on: 10/13/10 07:49AM »
Yes, there off Bake in Irvine.
See Phil.
It was under full warranty. My cost $0.00

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #5 on: 10/13/10 07:50AM »
I got 2,500 miles on it since the fix, NOT ONE DROP BURNED!!!
They did a great job , I highly recommend them.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #6 on: 10/13/10 09:24AM »
A re-ring that soon? Since I have my engine out and on a stand, it might be in my best interest to just go ahead and ring it while I have the chance.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #7 on: 10/13/10 09:39AM »
A re-ring that soon? Since I have my engine out and on a stand, it might be in my best interest to just go ahead and ring it while I have the chance.

Unless yours is an 08-11 I wouldn't bother.  Only the 2008+ bikes have that issue.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #8 on: 10/13/10 09:43AM »
I wonder what the hydrocarbon output from all that oil is. 

Anyone have access to the dynomometer emissions data from an oil-burning bike?

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #9 on: 10/13/10 10:33AM »
Mines an '07, so I might just throw it back in as is.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #10 on: 10/13/10 10:41AM »
I wonder what the hydrocarbon output from all that oil is. 

Anyone have access to the dynomometer emissions data from an oil-burning bike?

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I was curious about that as well... I was hoping to use that argument against Honda so that they should fix the issue before the EPA puts the heat on them about it.

Mines an '07, so I might just throw it back in as is.

Yeah, that's probably your best bet.  All the 04-07 bikes seem to be fine.  It's when they drastically changed the 08+ model the issue surfaced.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #11 on: 10/13/10 10:44AM »
ive read about this problem with the 08+ blades...i would try the dealer as already suggested but theres no guarantee they will help...in fact a buddy of mine on this site...hblade08 just did that and the honda rep that came out to inspect his bike said that was normal and there was no problem...basically saying its normal for the bike to burn oil as such...search the web for class action law suits as ive been told there is one currently in process...

if no help from honda then maybe having the cylinders honed a bit for new pistons and rings or just rings...but find a qualified mech to do it...good luck buddy...btw i would be pissed with hondas response or lack off...these bikes should have been recalled...just my .02
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #12 on: 10/13/10 10:54AM »
ive read about this problem with the 08+ blades...i would try the dealer as already suggested but theres no guarantee they will help...in fact a buddy of mine on this site...hblade08 just did that and the honda rep that came out to inspect his bike said that was normal and there was no problem...basically saying its normal for the bike to burn oil as such...search the web for class action law suits as ive been told there is one currently in process...

if no help from honda then maybe having the cylinders honed a bit for new pistons and rings or just rings...but find a qualified mech to do it...good luck buddy...btw i would be pissed with hondas response or lack off...these bikes should have been recalled...just my .02

What pisses me off is that Honda OFFICIALLY announced that a bike burning 1 Liter of oil per 1000 miles is NORMAL.  I would normally do an oil change every 3000 miles, so by that time I would have lost ALL of my oil due to this issue.  It's getting expensive to have to top off the oil every 300-500 miles AND THEN have to do a complete oil change by the end of 3000 mile period.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #13 on: 10/13/10 11:17AM »
ive read about this problem with the 08+ blades...i would try the dealer as already suggested but theres no guarantee they will help...in fact a buddy of mine on this site...hblade08 just did that and the honda rep that came out to inspect his bike said that was normal and there was no problem...basically saying its normal for the bike to burn oil as such...search the web for class action law suits as ive been told there is one currently in process...

if no help from honda then maybe having the cylinders honed a bit for new pistons and rings or just rings...but find a qualified mech to do it...good luck buddy...btw i would be pissed with hondas response or lack off...these bikes should have been recalled...just my .02

What pisses me off is that Honda OFFICIALLY announced that a bike burning 1 Liter of oil per 1000 miles is NORMAL.  I would normally do an oil change every 3000 miles, so by that time I would have lost ALL of my oil due to this issue.  It's getting expensive to have to top off the oil every 300-500 miles AND THEN have to do a complete oil change by the end of 3000 mile period.

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wow, they really officially announced that?  maybe there's a 2-stroke engine hidden somewhere in the bike. 
Are any owners w/ significant miles getting engine failures?

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #14 on: 10/13/10 11:37AM »
So far no catastrophic failures, at least none that have been reported on the forums I've been researching.  Though people seem to be reporting that the oil burning problem is getting progressively worse.  There's even an excel spreadsheet that's being passed around for purposes of actively monitoring the oil consumption.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #15 on: 10/13/10 12:28PM »
Could be rings, could be valve seals.  More often then not it's valve seals.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #16 on: 10/13/10 12:30PM »
Could be rings, could be valve seals.  More often then not it's valve seals.

If it's something as simple as valve seals, you would think Honda would recall all affected bikes to have the valve seals replaced.  Honda originally suspected the rings, did some replacements and found it wasn't 100% effective.  I surely hope Honda engineers are smarter than that.  :-\

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #17 on: 10/13/10 12:35PM »
Sounds like my RX-8, I buy oil for it in gallon jugs. I would have to deal with that on a bike.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #18 on: 10/13/10 12:41PM »
Could be rings, could be valve seals.  More often then not it's valve seals.

If it's something as simple as valve seals, you would think Honda would recall all affected bikes to have the valve seals replaced.  Honda originally suspected the rings, did some replacements and found it wasn't 100% effective.  I surely hope Honda engineers are smarter than that.  :-\
Not so simple.  6-8 hours labor plus parts.  $1200-1500 total.  Not a repair an OEM wants to pay for.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #19 on: 10/13/10 12:51PM »
Sounds like my RX-8, I buy oil for it in gallon jugs. I would have to deal with that on a bike.

I'm looking at buying a 5 gallon jug of oil just so I don't have to keep running down to cyclegear each time I need to top off the bike.

Not so simple.  6-8 hours labor plus parts.  $1200-1500 total.  Not a repair an OEM wants to pay for.

They should've thought of that before selling consumers motorcycles with defective motors.

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