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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #20 on: 10/13/10 03:00PM »
A sorry way to do business if u ask me...honda should be fixing all these bikes...as I understand it there is some sort of soft coating on the cylinder walls which I guess wears away over time increasing the space between the rings and cylinder walls causing the oil usage..not my opinion just what I've read or heard from blade owners...

Good luck to all with the problem

Btw how many late model sportbikes actually have a dip stick to check the oil level?  Maybe they new this was gonna b a problem...
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #21 on: 10/13/10 03:06PM »
A sorry way to do business if u ask me...honda should be fixing all these bikes...as I understand it there is some sort of soft coating on the cylinder walls which I guess wears away over time increasing the space between the rings and cylinder walls causing the oil usage..not my opinion just what I've read or heard from blade owners...

Good luck to all with the problem

Btw how many late model sportbikes actually have a dip stick to check the oil level?  Maybe they new this was gonna b a problem...

You're right, it seems to be the Nikasil coating... seems that something is causing it to wear down/break down causing the oil burning issue.  Not sure what kind of solution there would be to that considering it would require significant re-engineering of the motor if they decide not to use nikasil.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #22 on: 10/13/10 03:22PM »
Just put a new cylinder in with a good Nikasil coating.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #23 on: 10/13/10 03:25PM »
Nikasil is used all over the place in other bikes with no issues. Maybe it's the formulation they decided to use.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #24 on: 10/13/10 03:42PM »
 Its a well known fact about the cbr-1000 and the oil burning issue  .. most of it is the rings  , from what i have read on it ....  and the early prod. #s bikes were the ones not the latter prod #s .......600 cbr dont have that  problem
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #25 on: 10/13/10 03:44PM »
Weird that Honda would issue such a statement, especially given their model of reliability...clearly that is not a normal thing unless it's a 2 stroke!
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #26 on: 10/13/10 04:16PM »
 :43: I have an '08 1000 cbr. I bought it Dec. of 08. I have 22,000 miles on it... 9 trackdays of fun + Ortega. I was told that the o8's burn oil, newer ones don't. I lose 3/4 of a quart every 3000 miles, It has not been increasing. Maybe I'm lucky. If it gets worse I'll have to call Honda. Good luck.  :43:

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #27 on: 10/13/10 04:27PM »
So why doesn't honda just replace the rings if its not the coating...if enough blade owners start writing and calling honda maybe they will do sumthing...they've helped some but not others and that shoould show the repairs/recall is necessary...to use that much oil is unacceptable...I would be looking for an atty to get the problem addressed...
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #28 on: 10/13/10 04:30PM »
I also have a 2008 Honda CBR1000RR and have been having oil burning issues.  From the sounds by some of you, you're burning a lot of oil.  I ride my bike hard all the time, on the street , track, and canyons...it has just under 17,000 miles on it and I too burn 3/4 of a quart every 3000 miles, just like cbrrocket.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #29 on: 10/13/10 04:32PM »
Sorry to hear that Kareem, but...

What were you thinking? ...Getting a lemon-color bike.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #30 on: 10/13/10 04:33PM »
:43: I have an '08 1000 cbr. I bought it Dec. of 08. I have 22,000 miles on it... 9 trackdays of fun + Ortega. I was told that the o8's burn oil, newer ones don't. I lose 3/4 of a quart every 3000 miles, It has not been increasing. Maybe I'm lucky. If it gets worse I'll have to call Honda. Good luck.  :43:

So far you seem to be doing ok.  Just keep a close eye on the oil level though, someone on the CBR1000rr.net forum said the same thing as you and a few months down the road his engine seized up due to the lack of oil (he neglected to check the levels).  I'm going to contact Mission Motorsports tomorrow and see what they suggest doing.  I'm sure the bike is out of warranty (it's an 08 w/ only 1 year limited warranty).

So why doesn't honda just replace the rings if its not the coating...if enough blade owners start writing and calling honda maybe they will do sumthing...they've helped some but not others and that shoould show the repairs/recall is necessary...to use that much oil is unacceptable...I would be looking for an atty to get the problem addressed...

There's a class action case going against Honda right now for this issue.  I'm trying to find out what the final judgement was and how to get in on the class action:

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/657-class-action-lawsuit-claims-honda-cbr1000-bikes-have-manufacturing-defect-

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #31 on: 10/13/10 04:35PM »
Sorry to hear that Kareem, but...

What were you thinking? ...Getting a lemon-color bike.

:32: Jerome... keep an eye on your bike as well because the issue seems to effect some 09 and even some 2010 bikes as well.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #32 on: 10/13/10 05:26PM »
There's a class action case going against Honda right now for this issue.  I'm trying to find out what the final judgement was and how to get in on the class action:

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/657-class-action-lawsuit-claims-honda-cbr1000-bikes-have-manufacturing-defect-

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The case was only just filed in May.  It's likely no where near resolved yet.

The Case # is CV10-3639 (http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/05/17/HondaBikes.pdf).  You can access all the records for the case by registering on www.pacer.gov.  You are charged 8 cents for each page of data accessed.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #33 on: 10/13/10 10:00PM »
:43: I have an '08 1000 cbr. I bought it Dec. of 08. I have 22,000 miles on it... 9 trackdays of fun + Ortega. I was told that the o8's burn oil, newer ones don't. I lose 3/4 of a quart every 3000 miles, It has not been increasing. Maybe I'm lucky. If it gets worse I'll have to call Honda. Good luck.  :43:

Same scenario here with almost the same mileage, almost 23,000 miles.  It has always burned almost a quart of oil every 3,000 miles from the beginning.  If it gets worse I will take it in to Mission Motorsports like Knifun did and get the re-ring job as it should be covered under warranty (I purchased an extended warranty) and thanks Knifun for sharing that tip as well.

Nice bike K', I always thought you liked the V-twins.  Cycle Gear off lake forest Drive has a yellow/black leather suit on sale right now that would go with that bike, talk to Scott.  If you get the suit you may want to change your name to "Juice" or "sour sauce" or "lemon marange" or something like that.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #34 on: 10/13/10 10:28PM »
Another member I talked to says his 08 also has an issue with burning oil... MUCH worse than mine though (1/2qt every 100 miles I think he said).  He'll be calling Honda tomorrow and I will as well.  I've emailed the lawyer representing the class action and he said they're still working on a reasonable settlement so it's not too late to get in on it.

Also TheEvasive1's 09 CBR1000RR repsol had NO oil registering on his dipstick tonight @ Hooter's bike night... so chalk up another one for oil burning CBR's.

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« Last Edit: 10/14/10 07:23AM by K »

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #35 on: 10/13/10 10:54PM »
Dang you guys... now I want some Lemon Cooler Pie!!!

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #36 on: 10/13/10 11:46PM »
that sucks someone unloaded their defective bike on you K

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #37 on: 10/14/10 08:10AM »
that sucks someone unloaded their defective bike on you K

Carlos, in his defense I don't even think he knew about the issue.  Quite a few 08 CBR1000 owners don't check their oil frequently enough to spot the issue.  I only found out about it because the oil pressure light flickered momentarily one morning when I started the bike up but the light stayed off... I thought it was odd so I checked the oil level and found that I was over a quart low.

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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #38 on: 10/14/10 09:14AM »
Another member I talked to says his 08 also has an issue with burning oil... MUCH worse than mine though (1/2qt every 100 miles I think he said).  He'll be calling Honda tomorrow and I will as well.  I've emailed the lawyer representing the class action and he said they're still working on a reasonable settlement so it's not too late to get in on it.

Also TheEvasive1's 09 CBR1000RR repsol had NO oil registering on his dipstick tonight @ Hooter's bike night... so chalk up another one for oil burning CBR's.

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Yeah, I had to run to Target after I left Hooter's to throw a quart of oil in my bike just so I could safely get home. Definitely going to be stopping by the dealer to have some words about this problem. I think I'm still be under warranty. I'm also going to look into this class action suit on the issue.
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Re: Oil burning CBR1000RR
« Reply #39 on: 10/14/10 09:47AM »
The bikes just sweat (oil) like we do .... right?   >:D

 

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