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Turn Signals
« on: 03/30/08 11:02PM »
Sorry guys, the 9 inches thing isn't in the California code because it doesn't have to be. It's a Federal law. Since all vehicles must follow federal DOT regulations, that is where you get screwed.

Here is some research I did on motorcycle law a year ago.

California specifically states
Plate must be at rear of vehicle CVC 5200
Plate must be visible (doesn't say that it can't be vertical just clearly visible). CVC 5201
Plate must be illuminated at night. (If you dont have a light you can still ride it in the daytime). CVC 24601
Must have red rear reflector. CVC 24607
Must follow all federal laws and standards. -  CVC 26103

Now the the last one is the kicker, because the federal law is the tricky one.
Federal law states- specifically part 571 of the Code of Federal Regulations - Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards section 108  (feel free to skip the legal mumbo-jumbo and go to the very bottom to view the tables)

2 reflectors on each side of bike at the very front and very rear.
Approved turn signals with at least 3.5 square inches of visible area each.
Turn signals must be mounted 9 inches apart.
The feds also list a whole bunch of other stuff, like the signals must have a certain light level and must be able to last 100,000 cycles etc.

Sooooo basically.

Unless the vendor tells you that the lights are D.O.T. approved, you can get a ticket for em.

In reality though, if the lights are 3.5 square inches of lighted area and mounted 9 inches apart, and you have a lighted visible plate and a red rear reflector, then you will most likely be considered 'legal'

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #1 on: 03/31/08 09:25AM »
Thanks for the info!

and thank you Suzuki for awesome factory turn signals :)

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #2 on: 03/31/08 10:17AM »
oh man i just gotta ticket about this 9 inches light signal thing at HB saturday... my first ticket ever .. i hate chicken ash ticket
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« Reply #3 on: 03/31/08 11:34AM »
thats why I love the rear of the GSXR ......



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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #4 on: 03/31/08 02:40PM »
Sorry guys, the 9 inches thing isn't in the California code because it doesn't have to be. It's a Federal law. Since all vehicles must follow federal DOT regulations, that is where you get screwed.

Here is some research I did on motorcycle law a year ago.

California specifically states
Plate must be at rear of vehicle CVC 5200
Plate must be visible (doesn't say that it can't be vertical just clearly visible). CVC 5201
Plate must be illuminated at night. (If you dont have a light you can still ride it in the daytime). CVC 24601
Must have red rear reflector. CVC 24607
Must follow all federal laws and standards. -  CVC 26103

Now the the last one is the kicker, because the federal law is the tricky one.
Federal law states- specifically part 571 of the Code of Federal Regulations - Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards section 108  (feel free to skip the legal mumbo-jumbo and go to the very bottom to view the tables)

2 reflectors on each side of bike at the very front and very rear.
Approved turn signals with at least 3.5 square inches of visible area each.
Turn signals must be mounted 9 inches apart.
The feds also list a whole bunch of other stuff, like the signals must have a certain light level and must be able to last 100,000 cycles etc.

Sooooo basically.

Unless the vendor tells you that the lights are D.O.T. approved, you can get a ticket for em.

In reality though, if the lights are 3.5 square inches of lighted area and mounted 9 inches apart, and you have a lighted visible plate and a red rear reflector, then you will most likely be considered 'legal'

Thanks for the research,  where did you dig up all this info?
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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #5 on: 04/07/08 05:52PM »

Thanks for the research,  where did you dig up all this info?


I used to do a lot of case briefs in college. Thanks to the interweb and findlaw http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html all of the statutes and codes are at your fingertips.

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #6 on: 04/07/08 05:54PM »
Cool,  now I just have to find a legal fender eliminator kit for my SS900 and i'll be golden....ugh!
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« Reply #7 on: 04/07/08 06:37PM »
Is there any laws stating which direction the front turn signal needs to be facing?

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #8 on: 04/07/08 06:40PM »
Oh yeah I got a ticket for this as well as speeding (55 in a 40) a few weeks back.  Is anyone willing to lend me stock rear signals for an 04 R6?  Mine never came with them. -.-

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #9 on: 06/19/08 02:08PM »
saw a guy last night with his rear turn signals in his passenger pegs....anyone know where I can get this done???

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #10 on: 06/19/08 02:18PM »
saw a guy last night with his rear turn signals in his passenger pegs....anyone know where I can get this done???

Bob or Marshal might be able to help you get more info on that.  They both have it on theirs.



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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #12 on: 06/19/08 03:17PM »
Thanks for the info!

and thank you Suzuki for awesome factory turn signals :)

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damnit! now i miss my gsxr rear turn signals!

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« Reply #13 on: 06/19/08 03:27PM »
haha I made my signals just like the gsxr ones, 6 hours of labor to install haha. now they are concealed behind the vents in teh tail fairing on each side.

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #15 on: 06/19/08 04:29PM »
Thanks for the info!

and thank you Suzuki for awesome factory turn signals :)

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damnit! now i miss my gsxr rear turn signals!
Ya but you can't miss the front end!

saw a guy last night with his rear turn signals in his passenger pegs....anyone know where I can get this done???
That would be my bike you saw.
The link that smokinloon gave looks legit, I'd go with them!

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« Reply #16 on: 06/19/08 04:32PM »
Thanks for the info!

and thank you Suzuki for awesome factory turn signals :)

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damnit! now i miss my gsxr rear turn signals!
Ya but you can't miss the front end!

saw a guy last night with his rear turn signals in his passenger pegs....anyone know where I can get this done???
That would be my bike you saw.
The link that smokinloon gave looks legit, I'd go with them!

oh...you have a repsol too?

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #17 on: 06/19/08 04:36PM »
Thanks for the info!

and thank you Suzuki for awesome factory turn signals :)

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damnit! now i miss my gsxr rear turn signals!
Ya but you can't miss the front end!

saw a guy last night with his rear turn signals in his passenger pegs....anyone know where I can get this done???
That would be my bike you saw.
The link that smokinloon gave looks legit, I'd go with them!

oh...you have a repsol too?
What do you mean too?

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #18 on: 06/19/08 04:40PM »
oh...haha..er...

looking at your sig pic it doesn't look like a repsol...not enough orange...and then I actually read under your avatar...sorry *doh*

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Re: Turn Signals
« Reply #19 on: 06/19/08 04:58PM »
Don't worry, everyone else is confused as well. I rotated a lot of bikes in the past 5 months.

 

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