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Once again I'd like to see what happened before the video began.  What did the Mom in the car do to irritate the biker enough for him to get even with her by riding slow, brake checking, etc.  Having said that, I'm glad she's being charged and not the rider.  We talk about de-escalating road rage situations and blaming other riders for it.  Well, the Mom driving the car could have easily just de-escalated the situation, and even more important was she had a young child in the car.  She had more of a responsibility to do so. 

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So, Rogue, when you are faced with a situation where somebody does something stupid in a car, and you are on your bike, what do you do?

It DOESN'T MATTER what the "mom with child" did to upset the rider. The rider is at a severe disadvantage, and it is up to the rider to keep themselves safe. You don't play chicken with a bulldozer when you are in a compact car, do you? So don't play chicken with any 4 wheeled vehicles when on a bike. Why? BECAUSE YOU WILL LOOSE EVERY TIME.

It's not about personal responsibility for "who should back down first" - I agree that it should not have happened, and yes the mother with a child "should" take the responsible action and back off rather than hurting someone. However, it's your life - ride like it means something to you, or someone will assume you don't want to keep living.

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Rockrat, I'm not the perfect rider that you make yourself out to be.  I'm human with emotions and I'm subject to make mistakes when I'm under stress.  So please save it for the newbies!

I can't stand people who think they're so perfect that they feel they need to judge & lecture others.  Ride your own ride and I will ride mine.

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I guess he showed her. No excuse for either of them they deserved each other.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Personally I don't ever feel the need to get "even" with anyone on the road, particularly when I'm on a motorcycle. Nothing is gained from it.

There are two things that I agree with what R0ckrat said, when on a motorcycle you're ultimately the one responsible for your safety, nobody else is. How you conduct yourself plays a huge part in that. The other is, picking your battles. Taking on someone in a much larger vehicle when on a motorcycle usually means you're going to get the sharp end of the stick. Regardless of who is "right", what does it matter if you end up in the hospital, or worse, in the morgue!
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Hormonal woman driver meets masoginist male rider. It's like foot massaging Marcello Wallace's wife in Pulp Fiction. It may have been a over reaction but you gotta expect a reaction.
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Both were wrong, we don't know what started this mess, a bike is damaged, someone is facing a day in court, and most disappointing, a child is learning how to make life decisions from a nutjob.

Rockrat does make a good point.  But consider this: Know what the difference between someone carrying a gun and an angry cager?  There is none!  Both can be deadly in the wrong hands.  At least seeing someone face-to-face you might be able to gauge his/her character, it's much more difficult to see a cager, and more so with dark, tinted windows.  As my old boss would say: "The stupid shall be punished." 

 
« Last Edit: 07/26/17 06:22PM by Throttle Chopper »
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Rockrat, I'm not the perfect rider that you make yourself out to be.  I'm human with emotions and I'm subject to make mistakes when I'm under stress.  So please save it for the newbies!

I can't stand people who think they're so perfect that they feel they need to judge & lecture others.  Ride your own ride and I will ride mine.

I don't make myself out to be the perfect rider. But you said...
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Well, the Mom driving the car could have easily just de-escalated the situation, and even more important was she had a young child in the car.  She had more of a responsibility to do so.
I hate it when people say "Well, the other person should have taken the high road."

I'm sorry you feel that I'm lecturing, and please, ride your own ride.

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If it me versus the car I would be in a disadvantage, I would l let the nutcase go by and move away to safety. In today society folks are getting more careless and care free on the roads with there vehicles.
« Last Edit: 07/30/17 10:07PM by Taino Warrior »

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Re: "Idiot Rider Demonstrates How To Make Road Rage Worse"
« Reply #10 on: 07/30/17 11:31PM »
well, sometimes we win...

I was splitting down the 405 in the carpool lane...single occupant dude in a pos 90's convertible (top down) hops into HOV lane over double yellow nearly side swiping me. I brake, no harm, no foul.

As I roll by, I look over, nod "no" and head off

the dude may have thought my DL650 was a cop bike, because he promptly hopped right out of the carpool lane as it went to broken white LOL
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Re: "Idiot Rider Demonstrates How To Make Road Rage Worse"
« Reply #11 on: 08/01/17 10:27AM »
A close friend of mine helped pull a woman from a burning car that a speeding motorcyclist crashed into. Both she and the rider were killed. My point is  guns cars and motorcycles can all be deadly weapons in the wrong hands.
Forget about retribution on a motorcycle. We have enough on our plates with out trying to punish stupid people.

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