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Title: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/07/10 09:35PM
WHEN: Saturday June, 12 at 9:00 am (KSU time, so arrive before)
MEET: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur (see map link below)
ROUTE: See map below
SKILL LEVEL: Noobie, Intermediate, Expert*

Map of the route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+MacArthur+Blvd&daddr=CA-74+E+to:Grape+St+to:Newport+Rd+to:Domenigoni+Pkwy+to:Domenigoni+Pkwy+to:Stanford+St+to:Florida+Ave+to:N+Circle+Dr+to:Sandalwood+Dr+to:CA-38+E+to:Big+Bear+Blvd+to:N+Cajon+Blvd+to:CA-91+W+to:S+Main+St&geocode=FWo4AgIdA3X5-A%3BFYw2_wEdfLH8-A%3BFfunAQIdvi4C-Q%3BFRn-AQIdfDYD-Q%3BFXIjAgIdlqEE-Q%3BFa1PAgIdE_0G-Q%3BFXzFAgIdYsAH-Q%3BFbLzAgIdoXsI-Q%3BFTr_AgIdOjAL-Q%3BFdyxBgIdyNkF-Q%3BFYY8CQIdvq8H-Q%3BFQuECgId_DII-Q%3BFcOMCwId0mz_-A%3BFcDoBAIdWKP8-A%3BFfk0AgIdW3n5-A&hl=en&mra=mi&mrcr=1,2&mrsp=2&sz=18&via=3,4,5,6,10,13&dirflg=t&sll=33.662849,-117.296455&sspn=0.003916,0.006491&ie=UTF8&ll=33.922851,-117.222748&spn=0.999365,1.661682&z=10

311 miles and about 6 1/2 hours of riding.

Point A: Start and gas station: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur.
Point B: Gas station: Chevron on Ortega, on East side of 5 Fwy. 2nd meetup location: Be here before 9:20 am and wait for me.
Point C: Gas station: 76 on Railroad Canyon and Grape in Lake Elsinore. 3rd meetup location: Be here before 10:05 am and wait for me.
Point D: Gas station: Shell on Hwy 74 and Lincoln in Hemet. 4th meetup location: Be here before 10:50 am and wait for me.
Point E: Cafe Aroma (http://www.cafearoma.org/) in Idyllwild for lunch.
Point F: Gas station: Shell on Sandalwood Dr and Calimesa Blvd in Calimesa.
Point G: Denny's in Big Bear for a pit stop.
Point H: Gas station: Shell on Hwy 138 and Fwy 15 in Cajon pass.
Point I: End at gas station: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur.

************* Skill Levels Defined:
Noobie -You have been riding your motorcycle for at least 3 months (hopefully more) and have confidence that you can ride around streets without any issues eg. stopping at stop lights, not stalling the bike, not falling over etc, making u-turns, etc.
Intermediate - You have been riding for at least 6 months (hopefully more) and feel comfortable enough to handle twisty roads as found in local canyons. You are mature enough to understand going slow is okay and not to try and keep up with riders that are faster than you as it will result in a crash.
Expert - You have been riding for years and hopefully been riding with the members going on the ride long enough to know how they ride.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Dee Dub on 06/07/10 09:45PM
Some advice?
Avoid going thru Hemet and Lake Perris...too many stops, too much traffic
Hit up Domenigoni instead...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+MacArthur+Blvd&daddr=CA-74+E+to:Newport+Rd+to:Patton+Ave+to:Domenigoni+Pkwy+to:33.737331,-116.932468+to:Florida+Ave+to:N+Circle+Dr+to:Sandalwood+Dr+to:CA-38+E+to:Big+Bear+Blvd+to:N+Cajon+Blvd+to:S+Main+St&geocode=FWo4AgIdA3X5-A%3BFYw2_wEdfLH8-A%3BFVj-AQIdBqMD-Q%3BFUQcAgId1j8F-Q%3BFTBEAgIdjCgH-Q%3B%3BFbLzAgIdFHwI-Q%3BFTr_AgIdOjAL-Q%3BFdyxBgIdyNkF-Q%3BFYY8CQIdvq8H-Q%3BFQuECgId_DII-Q%3BFcOMCwId0mz_-A%3BFfk0AgIdW3n5-A&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=1&mrsp=5&sz=13&via=2,3,4,5,9&dirflg=t&sll=33.741043,-116.93779&sspn=0.053958,0.102139&ie=UTF8&ll=33.977531,-117.188416&spn=0.860937,1.634216&z=9

BTW,
There is a Shell gas station right at 'C'
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/07/10 10:08PM
Some advice? Avoid going thru Hemet and Lake Perris...too many stops, too much traffic. Hit up Domenigoni instead...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+MacArthur+Blvd&daddr=CA-74+E+to:Newport+Rd+to:Patton+Ave+to:Domenigoni+Pkwy+to:33.737331,-116.932468+to:Florida+Ave+to:N+Circle+Dr+to:Sandalwood+Dr+to:CA-38+E+to:Big+Bear+Blvd+to:N+Cajon+Blvd+to:S+Main+St&geocode=FWo4AgIdA3X5-A%3BFYw2_wEdfLH8-A%3BFVj-AQIdBqMD-Q%3BFUQcAgId1j8F-Q%3BFTBEAgIdjCgH-Q%3B%3BFbLzAgIdFHwI-Q%3BFTr_AgIdOjAL-Q%3BFdyxBgIdyNkF-Q%3BFYY8CQIdvq8H-Q%3BFQuECgId_DII-Q%3BFcOMCwId0mz_-A%3BFfk0AgIdW3n5-A&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=1&mrsp=5&sz=13&via=2,3,4,5,9&dirflg=t&sll=33.741043,-116.93779&sspn=0.053958,0.102139&ie=UTF8&ll=33.977531,-117.188416&spn=0.860937,1.634216&z=9
BTW,There is a Shell gas station right at 'C'
Excellent advice.
Route updated.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: HBHieu on 06/08/10 12:03AM
Some advice? Avoid going thru Hemet and Lake Perris...too many stops, too much traffic. Hit up Domenigoni instead...

BTW,There is a Shell gas station right at 'C'
Excellent advice.
Route updated.

Domenigoni is da bomb!  :7: Say hello to our Ruff Rider friend if you see him!  :27:

http://ocmoto.com/index.php?topic=27834.msg410199#msg410199
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: DiamondDave on 06/08/10 07:12AM

Guys, Domenigoni is a good way to avoid Hemet headaches but if you are up for extending your route a little, many like to go down the 74 face just to play with the twisties but go back up so that you have to decide to go back the 243 that you just came off of or stay right to go down the 74 Pines to Palm. But instead of taking it to the Desert you go to the 371, make a right and that will take you to the 79s. Make another right on the 79s and you come out in Temecula. Yes I know a little south from the 74 that you want to get back on but a nice run and a lot cooler area than coming out in Hemet/Perris. Plus once in Temecula you have a lot of places to take a nice break. I know I live there off 79s and have lead rides thru there several times...

Just wanted to through you an option...Safe Riding, I'll probably be heading down towards San Diego, Julian, S1 and other routes that day. Weekend is suppose to be cooler so will make for some nice runs.

Best  :29:
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: FZBear10 on 06/08/10 07:34AM
I would love to go, thanks for the invite Jerome but I am off to Lake Mohave to go boating for the weekend. Maybe in few weeks I can go for a long ride again...
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: OC Josh 23 on 06/08/10 10:16AM
I would love to go, thanks for the invite Jerome but I am off to Lake Mohave to go boating for the weekend. Maybe in few weeks I can go for a long ride again...

+1
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/08/10 01:02PM
Just replied to a PM asking for a shorter version of this ride and there is an easy solution...
Just break off from the ride after coming down from Idyllwild to Beaumont (just before point E) and return home from there, following the 60 and then 91 Fwy.

I'll be going for the fulll version myself.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: kosherbakin on 06/08/10 08:50PM
I get off of work at Campus and Bristol at 9:00 can you wait a couple of min for me to show. Sounds like fun. I'll be only 5 min away.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/08/10 09:36PM
I get off of work at Campus and Bristol at 9:00 can you wait a couple of min for me to show. Sounds like fun. I'll be only 5 min away.
OK, see you at 9:05 am. Please arrive fueled-up so we can leave right-away.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/08/10 09:44PM
In.  I'll meet you at the bottom of Ortega(liquor store parking lot).  9:45ish?
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: stormy on 06/08/10 10:20PM
In.  I'll meet you at the bottom of Ortega(liquor store parking lot).  9:45ish?

You should just meet at the mobile station at the 15 fwy at like 10 instead +1
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/08/10 10:27PM
what exit is that?
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: nube on 06/08/10 11:08PM
looks like an awesome ride, too bad I'm out of town :(

Have fun.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: kosherbakin on 06/09/10 12:39AM
I get off of work at Campus and Bristol at 9:00 can you wait a couple of min for me to show. Sounds like fun. I'll be only 5 min away.
OK, see you at 9:05 am. Please arrive fueled-up so we can leave right-away.
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Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Dee Dub on 06/09/10 08:07AM
In.  I'll meet you at the bottom of Ortega(liquor store parking lot).  9:45ish?

You should just meet at the mobile station at the 15 fwy at like 10 instead +1

Actually...if they are stopping at the Shell Station in Hemet, that might be better. ("C" on his map)
(takes us about an hour from San Juan Capistrano/Chevron)
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: BMW mike on 06/09/10 08:10AM
I'm in, need to work on my iron butt  :11: for the 6 states in 4 days ride next month... :13: :7:
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/09/10 08:52AM
There is a Farmer Boys on Collier(74), right before Central in Lake Elsinore that I can meet you guys at.  How does that sound, Jerome?
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/09/10 10:17AM
There is a Farmer Boys on Collier(74), right before Central in Lake Elsinore that I can meet you guys at.  How does that sound, Jerome?
Please let's meet at one of the designated points on the map. If you're in Elsinore it should be a short drive for you to get to point C. I'm guessing we should be at point C around 10:45 am.

Problem with meetup locations further away from the start of the ride is the difficulty to predict what time the gathered group arrives. The burden of conservative waiting should be on the riders that meetup further downstream, so the majority is not penalised by padding the ride with extra wait times.

Another option: On previous rides, there were riders waiting along the planned route that just merged in and that worked for them. Look for this color scheme (http://www.expandingknowledge.com/Jerome/Motorcycle/Personal/Picture/Full/2010_05_16_CA_TrabucoCanyon_ONeillRegPark_Motorcycle_2009_Honda_CBR1000RR_Jerome_Lisa.jpg) with me riding solo on this one. To help you, I will be tootin' my horn as I approach the intersection of Collier and Central (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Collier+Ave&daddr=&geocode=FdoRAgIdRokB-Q&hl=en&mra=ls&sll=33.690085,-117.339649&sspn=0.016997,0.021479&ie=UTF8&z=16), I'm guessing we should drive by around 10:15am.

Looks like we have a nice group of riders building up, this will be fun.
 
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/09/10 10:29AM
I see.  I suggested it since you would be passing it before getting on the freeway per your map. I understand.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: BMW mike on 06/09/10 10:38AM
Jerome, I'll meet you at the corner of Main & MacArthur 8:50 ish
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/09/10 10:41AM
Jerome, I'll meet you at the corner of Main & MacArthur 8:50 ish
Great.
Make sure it is the good corner of Main & MacArthur as per the map, as those streets intersect twice.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: BMW mike on 06/09/10 04:41PM
Jerome, At the Mobil Station 8:50 see you there
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/09/10 08:39PM
To help stormy and IE_RiDER join the group, and to break the longest continuous part of the ride, I inserted an extra meetup location in Lake Elsinore:
    76 on Railroad Ganyon and Grape in Lake Elsinore. 3rd meetup location: Be here before 10:05 am and wait for me.

Also, I added times for being at all 4 meetup locations (Points A through D).
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/10/10 09:54AM
This is going to be a great ride.  Thanks for adding an extra meetup location.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: MothersmarK on 06/11/10 05:27AM
Never done this route before, looks like a great ride!
I'll link up at the Ortega/5 spot at 9:20am

-Scott
:47:
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/11/10 11:25AM
Great weather forecast for tomorrow: 0% chance of rain, not too cold in the mountains or too hot in the valleys.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/11/10 07:17PM
Hope the weather is better tommorow then it was today.  It was overcast all day here in teh IE.  See you guys  in the morning
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: kosherbakin on 06/11/10 08:43PM
You don't have to wait 5 min for me I changed my shift around see you at the mobile at 8:50.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/11/10 09:42PM
You don't have to wait 5 min for me I changed my shift around see you at the mobile at 8:50.
Great, the train will leave the station on time.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Comp720 on 06/11/10 10:28PM
In maybe
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: huname on 06/11/10 11:23PM
hopefully you guys have room for one more. :8: :30:
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: prophet on 06/12/10 12:23AM
Damn I love this route! I live in perris, so its perfect for me, but I already have plans for saturday. I could go sunday.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/12/10 07:48AM
hopefully you guys have room for one more. :8: :30:
Since you are from Midway City, I assume I will see you at point A before 9am.

I will start gearing up so will not read messages after this point. Let's ride!
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: IE_RiDER on 06/12/10 06:15PM
Great ride today!  It was nice meeting you all.  Thanks Jerome for planning and leading the ride. 
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: huname on 06/12/10 06:27PM

Checking in.  Thanks Jerome! I would definitely do it again.  Beautiful route.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: kosherbakin on 06/12/10 07:59PM
Well I'm back, safe, and sore. It was very nice meeting all of you. I might have pulled a record spilling 2 time on a ride, it will give you something to talk about for a while. I want to thank everybody for being so cool, I have learned the one should ride there own ride, and wear all of there gear it could save your life. I'm going to see about skills days to sharpen my ride up. But I would definatly be on more rides with the OCMOTO gang, great people who look after each other, and love to ride. I'm going to sleep for a whole day now. Rubber side down

Greg Peairs 
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: MothersmarK on 06/12/10 08:31PM
First of all, +1 to Jerome for a great route, pace, and precision.  (I'd make it a +3 but the forum doesn't work that way)  :29:
Everyone else . . . thanks for the chase!  I melted my tires nicely and saw never before seen speeds due in part to riding with such a mature group of people. 

As for that those crashes, well Greg is too modest about what happened.
You see it all started when . . .  (help tell the tale guys)   :3:
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 06/12/10 08:49PM
Picture of the group at Lake Fumor, near Idyllwild.

My story of the day: Pounding my chest to kill a bee that got inside the jacket and making use of its stinger.

From now on, I will be referring to Greg as "Mr. Indestructible", I mean the guy is really tough.

That was a lot of fun spending the day with you guys,
   Jerome
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: kosherbakin on 06/13/10 01:32AM
First of all, +1 to Jerome for a great route, pace, and precision.  (I'd make it a +3 but the forum doesn't work that way)  :29:
Everyone else . . . thanks for the chase!  I melted my tires nicely and saw never before seen speeds due in part to riding with such a mature group of people. 

As for that those crashes, well Greg is too modest about what happened.
You see it all started when . . .  (help tell the tale guys)   :3:
O yea the family of squirrels I was trying to avoid hitting.
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: SiscoKid on 06/13/10 12:32PM
Great ride and route set up by Jerome. Props to him for a job well done.  It was great riding with everybody. I pulled off an exit earlier that promised since I was getting tired and a little sloppy, missing a couple turns. Everybody rode well and it was a pleasure.  Definitely the high point of the day was turning around to find a downed rider, and passing him going the other way safe and sound.

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Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: FZBear10 on 06/14/10 10:02AM
Looks like it was a great ride, too bad I missed it. I was having fun on the water though!
Title: Re: Saturday June 12: Ortega, Idyllwild, Big Bear, Silverwood
Post by: JambaJuice on 06/14/10 10:37AM
Sorry I was unable to ride the entire distance...I already had done Ortega in the am...thank you for letting me hang with you guys on the way thru Ortega...

Ride Safe
Lewis