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Title: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/11/10 07:13PM
WHEN: Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am (KSU time, so arrive before)
MEET: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur (see map link below)
ROUTE: See map below
SKILL LEVEL: Noobie, Intermediate, Expert*

292 miles and about 7 hours of riding (not counting stops).
Highlights: Double dose of... Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade.

Because of the forecasted high temperature in Borrego Springs (http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/ski/tenday/USCA0119) (107 F in the shade) for Saturday, this ride avoids that valley. So no "Montezuma" but more of the twisties in the cooler areas, like...
Mesa Grande rd (http://www.sundaymorningrides.com/road/5568325/) when riding by lake Henshaw to Julian. Picture gallery (http://www.sundaymorningrides.com/road/5568325/gallery.shtml). It's #15 in the West Coast Rides (http://www.sportbikeclub.com/sportbikeclub/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=672799&sk=595b6cef39b209563f31357a4d7f5a15)

Map of the route (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+MacArthur+Blvd&daddr=CA-74+E+to:Grand+Ave+to:Pala-Temecula+Rd+to:CA-76+E+to:S+Grade+Rd%2FPalomar+Mountain+Rd+to:Mesa+Grande+Rd+to:CA-78+W%2FJulian+Rd+to:CA-78+E%2FCA-79+S%2FJulian+Rd+to:Wynola+Rd+to:33.068487,-116.546992&geocode=FWo4AgId23f5-A%3BFVM2_wEds7D8-A%3BFeIpAQIdZKsB-Q%3BFb7d_QEdUmkF-Q%3BFUIa_QEdtmMF-Q%3BFU9D_AEdDq4I-Q%3BFWkf-gEdQqgK-Q%3BFUQ0-QEdLrAL-Q%3BFYc2-QEd67cL-Q%3BFQID-QEd8pQM-Q%3B&hl=en&mra=dme&mrcr=4&mrsp=10&sz=18&via=2,3,5,6,9&sll=33.068321,-116.546016&sspn=0.004122,0.006904&ie=UTF8&ll=33.400492,-117.143097&spn=1.051309,1.767426&z=10)   <-- Click me.
Point A: Start and gas station: Mobil at the corner of Main & MacArthur.
Point B: Gas station: Chevron on Ortega, on East side of 5 Fwy. 2nd meetup location: Be here before 8:20 am and wait for me.
Point C: Gas station: In Pala. 3rd meetup location: Be here before 9:30 am and wait for me.
Point D: Lunch break: Apple Country Restaurant.
Point E: Gas station: In Santa Ysabel.
Point F: Turn-around at bottom of Banner Grade.
Reverse route, with stops at above points...
Point C: Gas station: In Pala.
Gas station: Shell in San Juan Capistrano.


************* Skill Levels Defined:
Noobie -You have been riding your motorcycle for at least 3 months (hopefully more) and have confidence that you can ride around streets without any issues eg. stopping at stop lights, not stalling the bike, not falling over etc, making u-turns, etc.
Intermediate - You have been riding for at least 6 months (hopefully more) and feel comfortable enough to handle twisty roads as found in local canyons. You are mature enough to understand going slow is okay and not to try and keep up with riders that are faster than you as it will result in a crash.
Expert - You have been riding for years and hopefully been riding with the members going on the ride long enough to know how they ride.
Title: Re: 200 to 300 mile ride, Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Dee Dub on 08/11/10 07:52PM
I'm considering this (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=CA-74+E&daddr=Temecula+Pkwy+to:CA-76+E+to:S+Grade+Rd+to:Mesa+Grande+Rd+to:Mesa+Grande+Rd+to:Wynola+Rd+to:Wynola+Rd+to:Banner-Grade+to:CA-78+E%2FBanner-Grade&geocode=FYw2_wEdfLH8-A%3BFa7L_gEdU78E-Q%3BFcsZ_QEdomwF-Q%3BFcBV_AEdCscI-Q%3BFdHK-gEd6bIK-Q%3BFSw7-gEdXksK-Q%3BFQb7-AEdNiIM-Q%3BFd4D-QEdzIgM-Q%3BFQIA-QEdjOkM-Q%3BFQit-AEdSsgN-Q&hl=en&mra=mr&via=5,7&sll=33.068528,-117.026367&sspn=1.23369,2.458191&ie=UTF8&ll=33.339707,-116.747589&spn=0.614943,1.229095&z=10)...(& back the way we came)
Join forces?
Title: Re: 200 to 300 mile ride, Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Clem Kevin on 08/11/10 11:11PM
I might do this if I work monday.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/12/10 12:48AM
I'm considering this (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=CA-74+E&daddr=Temecula+Pkwy+to:CA-76+E+to:S+Grade+Rd+to:Mesa+Grande+Rd+to:Mesa+Grande+Rd+to:Wynola+Rd+to:Wynola+Rd+to:Banner-Grade+to:CA-78+E%2FBanner-Grade&geocode=FYw2_wEdfLH8-A%3BFa7L_gEdU78E-Q%3BFcsZ_QEdomwF-Q%3BFcBV_AEdCscI-Q%3BFdHK-gEd6bIK-Q%3BFSw7-gEdXksK-Q%3BFQb7-AEdNiIM-Q%3BFd4D-QEdzIgM-Q%3BFQIA-QEdjOkM-Q%3BFQit-AEdSsgN-Q&hl=en&mra=mr&via=5,7&sll=33.068528,-117.026367&sspn=1.23369,2.458191&ie=UTF8&ll=33.339707,-116.747589&spn=0.614943,1.229095&z=10)...(& back the way we came)
Join forces?
Yes, I fine-tuned the route now starting in Santa Ana and the stops.

For those joining, let me know at which meet point (A in Santa Ana, B in San Juan Capistrano or C in Pala) so I know where to expect you.

Bring your camera, because the road she is pretty.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Dee Dub on 08/12/10 09:11AM
Are you firm on the time?  (ealier perhaps? hint/hint... :3: )

BTW
Julian Hi:80 Lo:55
Escondido Hi:82 Lo:62
Palomar Hi:83 Lo:60
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/12/10 10:00AM
Are you firm on the time?  (ealier perhaps?)
Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

Temperature-wise, low 80's is great. By avoiding the Borrego Springs valley floor, we are already making ourselves comfortable.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: littletim67 on 08/12/10 10:46AM
Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

To each there own, but 9 am early? We would normally leave Ortega and the 5 around 6:30-7:00 when we did these rides.

I might be going out with some other people so maybe we'll see you on the road.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Twisted Wrist on 08/12/10 11:21AM
Just did that ride yesterday folks....highly recommend it!!!  Its beautiful right now and all the roads are clear of debris.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/12/10 11:48AM
Just did that ride yesterday folks....highly recommend it!!!  Its beautiful right now and all the roads are clear of debris.
Thanks for sharing pictures of your ride (http://ocmoto.com/index.php?topic=32023).

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far (http://www.expandingknowledge.com/Jerome/Motorcycle/Main.htm#Personal_Ride)... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks.  :26:
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Dee Dub on 08/12/10 12:24PM
Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.

To each there own, but 9 am early? We would normally leave Ortega and the 5 around 6:30-7:00 when we did these rides.

I might be going out with some other people so maybe we'll see you on the road.

What he said...(well, maybe NOT 7:00...)
We are planning to be passing at the Ortega by about 8:30 (not too much ealier).
...Should you change your mind (I'll be watching)... :27:
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Ducatista on 08/12/10 12:34PM

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far (http://www.expandingknowledge.com/Jerome/Motorcycle/Main.htm#Personal_Ride)... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks.  :26:

This one's just a bit too long for my limited stamina.  Hubby and I were on the brink of joining you last Sat, but the uncertainty of the road quality pushed me off the fence on the chicken side.  Now, given that I'm an old married woman, I might not be in the demographic that you had in mind! ;)
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/12/10 01:08PM
Sorry, but a 9 am start is already early and a stretch for me.
We would normally leave Ortega and the 5 around 6:30-7:00 when we did these rides.
What he said...(well, maybe NOT 7:00...) We are planning to be passing at the Ortega by about 8:30 (not too much ealier). Should you change your mind (I'll be watching)...
You guys can have the "early worm".

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far (http://www.expandingknowledge.com/Jerome/Motorcycle/Main.htm#Personal_Ride)... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks.  :26:
This one's just a bit too long for my limited stamina.  Hubby and I were on the brink of joining you last Sat, but the uncertainty of the road quality pushed me off the fence on the chicken side.  Now, given that I'm an old married woman, I might not be in the demographic that you had in mind! ;)
This old man says: Once a chick, always a chick.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: Twisted Wrist on 08/12/10 02:50PM
Haha, yeah, I dont know if I have a good answer for that. Most lady riders are usually partnered with a male rider as was the case on my ride.  There just arent a lot of women riders yet in the world, and of them, not a lot like to do longer rides in my opinion/observations.  In 20 years I have only ridden with 3 independent women, out enjoying the rides on their own initiative without a hubby or boyfriend influencing the choices.  I ended up dating two of them! LOL.

Just did that ride yesterday folks....highly recommend it!!!  Its beautiful right now and all the roads are clear of debris.
Thanks for sharing pictures of your ride (http://ocmoto.com/index.php?topic=32023).

Questions: How do you get girls to join your rides?
For all the rides I organized so far (http://www.expandingknowledge.com/Jerome/Motorcycle/Main.htm#Personal_Ride)... Zero, 0, zilch nada chicks.  :26:
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: BMW mike on 08/13/10 01:36PM
Grrrrrr Busy this weekend next week for sure getting stir-crazy and feel the need for speed...  :'( >:( :34:
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 9:00 am
Post by: DiamondDave on 08/13/10 03:10PM
Jerome'
You guys have a GREAT RIDE and be safe buddy!! I would so be in for this but I feel the need for some off road speed and getting dirty  :32: I'll be riding around Wildomar/Elsinore with a few others tomorrow at 8am...Going to knock out a couple 30 mile loops.

If you see a 2stk KTM in the back of a white Z71 wave as you run by...

Catch you on another one of these runs soon...I need a 6 States reunion  :29:
~DDave
Title: Watch out, I may be grumpy in the morning
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/13/10 03:29PM
Ok Ok, I shifted this ride to happen 1 hour earlier, details have been updated.

I will try not being grumpy in the morning.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Dee Dub on 08/13/10 03:35PM
Coffee!

...see you at the Chevron!
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: farschad on 08/13/10 07:41PM
i too may join you guys.darn early.you guys must have sleeping problems,wake up early everyday and just want to sleep in a little on the weekend but no...Lol cant keep everyone happy. jerome can i get your cell phone just in case i am running late then i can catch up maybe else where with ya ? pm me.tks
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/13/10 10:09PM
Jerome can i get your cell phone just in case i am running late then i can catch up maybe else where with ya ? pm me.tks
Shocker...  I have no cell phone! All the 20 and 30 year olds must be gasping. Yes, one can live without one.
I will be carrying my girlfriend's phone (pink) for the day for emergencies, but leave it off inside my backpack.
I hope you can meet us at the pre-arranged locations/times, this will be a great ride.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: legallyfast on 08/13/10 10:13PM
Ride safe all, I will be spending time with the family tomorrow
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: farschad on 08/13/10 10:25PM
got ya hope to see you in the morning .
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/13/10 10:57PM
got ya hope to see you in the morning .
If I see you, will it be at Point A (Santa Ana) ?

Cool, I also see "BMW mike" just joined, most likely meeting at Point A as in the past?

I know "Dee Dub" will be at point B (San Juan Capistrano).
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: BMW mike on 08/13/10 11:09PM
Lets keep it under 160mph  LOL
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: FREDDIE NO WHEELIE on 08/14/10 01:02AM
under 160!? i'll stay in ortega, lol

Lets keep it under 160mph  LOL
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: FREDDIE NO WHEELIE on 08/14/10 12:07PM
We are now at jullians, eating at Apple Country Restaurant. 7 experienced riders from ocmoto and me tagging along as a rookie.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: agustin on 08/14/10 12:10PM
We are now at jullians, eating at Apple Country Restaurant. 7 experienced riders from ocmoto and me tagging along as a rookie.

You're no rookie, you've been out there before.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: dcougar2u on 08/14/10 03:40PM
We missed you on the Ortega today, Freddie.  Everyone was like:  "Dude, where's Freddie?"  And we were like:  "Dude, like I think he went to Palomar."
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: FREDDIE NO WHEELIE on 08/14/10 04:22PM
But didn't take the tight side and skip it to go straight to jullians
We are now at jullians, eating at Apple Country Restaurant. 7 experienced riders from ocmoto and me tagging along as a rookie.

You're no rookie, you've been out there before.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Dee Dub on 08/14/10 04:23PM
Nice ride!
Good roads, good people, no tickets no crashes!
(we got home at 4:05 Steve...)
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: FREDDIE NO WHEELIE on 08/14/10 04:27PM
We pass through Ortega this morning at around 8am.

No worries, Freddie No wheelie will be at Ortega tomorrow pretty early.

We missed you on the Ortega today, Freddie.  Everyone was like:  "Dude, where's Freddie?"  And we were like:  "Dude, like I think he went to Palomar."
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: FREDDIE NO WHEELIE on 08/14/10 04:30PM
Awesome ride with bunch of mature riders today. Linda, you got some skills on the canyons! Tnx for letting me tag along with you all.
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Older Guy on 08/14/10 04:33PM
Hahahaha...see...old guys can ride too......good chasing you younger guys.....
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Older Guy on 08/14/10 04:36PM
Oh....Dennis...I passed Lake Forest at 12 minutes to 4....hahahaha....bet I took less time to get gas though....
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/14/10 05:41PM
Wow, that was fun. Good group of 9 people... Linda (thank you for breaking my "no girls on my rides" spell), Dennis, Farshad, Mike, Jason (who attracts venomous insects), Dennis, Steve, Freddie and me.

Took a few pointers from Farshad and Steve by following them throught roads they know well.

Picture here is of Jason's bug sting and baking soda antidote, and group shot at South end of Mesa Grande immediatly after Jason's bug encounter.

+1 to all for making this a fun and accident/ticket-free ride. Jason, what's you handle?
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Jerome Daoust on 08/14/10 05:42PM
During the return, at Mother's Kitchen on Top of Palomar...
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: FREDDIE NO WHEELIE on 08/14/10 08:03PM
I stayed at Hells Kitchen for a bit and went home around 4. Showered and now here at my sushi spot (Maru Sushi/Costa Mesa). So here are some of my shots..

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/freddie-no-wheelie/86174f4c.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/freddie-no-wheelie/ed20bd64.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/freddie-no-wheelie/886bb2f0.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/freddie-no-wheelie/c901c397.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb82/freddie-no-wheelie/eb222f4e.jpg)
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Ducatista on 08/14/10 08:17PM
Yay for the chick!  You guys had a great day for it, tho I did see the temp hit 100 as I drove over Ortega en route to Riverside -ugh!.  I'm sorry that Jason got stung, but delighted to see another GSX-F.  He and my old man have the ezact same bike - color and all.  
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: farschad on 08/14/10 08:38PM
nice meeting and seeing everyone. those were some wonderful rds and perfect weather,enjoyed the company too. i clocked 345miles. where we going tomorrow ?
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: JasonChen on 08/14/10 08:56PM
I guess I had to pop my ocmoto cherry and signup an account now... hola!  :31:

it was nice meeting you all and that was such a fun ride! too bad I was just not all there after that little "incident"  :35:  I just woke up from the best nap, ever! I guess man-handling a 531 lbs bike chasing you guys' liter bikes can do that... LOL   good fast pace today!  8)

 :29:
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: JasonChen on 08/14/10 09:00PM
oh yeah, here are some crappy phone camera pictures... thought I'd travel lite today so didn't bring my camera.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs159.ash2/41266_443105891736_623156736_4887554_3682506_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs159.ash2/41266_443105896736_623156736_4887555_3958742_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs299.snc4/41266_443105901736_623156736_4887556_1854491_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs299.snc4/41266_443105906736_623156736_4887557_5824361_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs299.snc4/41266_443105911736_623156736_4887558_3413636_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: Dee Dub on 08/14/10 09:31PM
Ortega compilation...

http://www.youtube.com/v/15hZkAcGaUY?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: van-man82 on 08/14/10 09:34PM
Hey Jerome,  It looks and sounds like another great ride you had.  I wish I could have gone but I had to play soldier today and tomoarrow.  Next Sunday I should be able to get out.  Ill keep checking the forum for upcoming rides.  Take care and I look forward to the next time. :29:
Title: Re: Ortega, Palomar, Mesa Grande, Banner Grade - Saturday August 14, at 8:00 am
Post by: JasonChen on 08/14/10 09:47PM
cleaning my leather and found out I picked up some yellow paint from the double yellow line... haha

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs250.snc4/39849_443183401736_623156736_4889830_5754039_n.jpg)