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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: US Moto Industry news...
« Last post by Snapshot on Today at 06:16 AM »
What Scott said above.  We do need to start reaching out to others.

Ride on,

J~
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: US Moto Industry news...
« Last post by The Cycle Guy on 01/18/18 07:27PM »
Here's another article on the topic...

http://www.motorcycle.com/features/give-a-shift-trying-to-help-save-the-motorcycle-industry.html

Give A Shift: Trying To Help Save The Motorcycle Industry
Kickstarting a needed conversation

"Give A Shift is the punny name given to an initiative intended to forward the cause of motorcycling in the U.S. market, which is showing signs of shrinkage due to a variety of reasons: demographic, cultural, and systemic.

Spearheaded by Robert Pandya, a moto industry stalwart in public relations and marketing, GAS is bringing together all interested parties to identify problems and to come up with possible solutions. All voices are desired, from newbie millennials to veteran industry personnel and stakeholders.

The first GAS conference was held last November, with a panel of 25 individuals from diverse backgrounds, including yours truly. A follow-up gathering was assembled last week.

Flattening motorcycle sales will have a profound impact on the transpo-tainment aspects of motorcycling that we’re passionate about. Baby boomers have girded the moto market for decades, but their collective influence is dying off, quite literally. For the motorcycle industry to maintain its current sales volume, particularly here in North America, we need an influx from younger generations." - Continues at link.
I was at the Give A Shift forum last week at Lucky Wheels Garage (cool place, by the way).  It was certainly interesting, seeing old moto-industry friends and meeting new ones too.  The meeting was surprisingly short on suggestions for action.  After the speakers were done we all chatted, and I asked several people for their ideas about how we can help stimulate new ridership.

The general consensus was that several factors are hurting motorcycle sales.  Economic, practical, and safety are the big ones.  With high rents, student loan debt, and relatively low wages, younger people don't have the funds for an expensive toy.  They feel they can afford only 1 vehicle, and you can carry a whole lot more stuff in a car.

Some felt that any solution should come from the manufacturers, after all its in their economic interest.  I agree with that to a point, however I think the OEMs are doing a decent job with products to attract new riders.  Most of the manufacturers have small, relatively affordable and relatively unintimidating bikes these days.

Offroad riding legend Scot Harden has proposed a solution involving people, not products.  His "Plus 1" initiative suggests actions we can all take to help increase ridership.  Here's the entire article:  http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/Home/News-Story/advocating-for-motorcyclings-future

Here are some of Scot's suggestions:
1. Share your passion with others. Expose non-motorcycle friends to the sport by inviting them to your house to catch the Sunday game on TV. Entertain in your garage. Use your motorcycle(s) as props to promote discussion about motorcycles. Let them touch, feel, even sit on your bike. I would argue that every motorcyclist started a love affair with motorcycling after first sitting on someone else’s bike.

2. Attend an event. Invite your non-motorcyclist friends to a motorcycle show, race or rally. Take time to explain what is going on, introduce them to your motorcycling friends, and share the experience with them like you would anyone else.

3. Take a friend for a ride. It doesn’t have to be all day. Take them to lunch or for coffee. Let them experience the fun and enjoyment of riding.

4. Teach someone how to ride. I know this raises all sorts of issues, but many enthusiasts—like myself—have enough property and small-displacement bikes to teach people how to ride off road. Get them over their initial fears. Show them it isn’t as complicated as it looks. Encourage them to take a rider-training course.

5. Invite your non-motorcycle friends for dinner and a movie. I suggest a motorcycle movie, such as “The World’s Fastest Indian,” the “Long Way Around,” “The Motorcycle Diaries,” “On Any Sunday” or “Take it to the Limit.” Anything to inspire them to want to give motorcycling a try.

6. Share the experience. Tell your co-workers about your latest motorcycle trip or adventure. Sure, they probably already know you’re a motorcyclist. But have you ever shared exactly what that means and how it enriches your life? This would work well in any other groups or associations you are already involved in.

7. Invite non-motorcycle friends to go camping with you and experience the outdoors. Find a place where you can all enjoy the surroundings and make sure you have your motorcycle available, as well. My first motorcycle riding experience took place on just such a trip.

8. Visit your local motorcycle dealer and invite your non-motorcycling buddy to tag along. Show off the great product offerings. Make the point that motorcycles exist in all shapes and sizes.

9. Target social media. Share pictures of yourself enjoying the sport. Share posts you come across that are inspiring and show just how much fun motorcycling is.

10. Reach out to millennials. For all you baby boomers out there, make an effort to reach out to your children’s friends and acquaintances. Show an interest in what they are doing. Ask them if they’ve ever thought of going riding. If you can, provide an opportunity for them to experience the sense of freedom, adventure and excitement that motorcycling offers.



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Bikes For Sale / Re: FS 2008 CBR1000RR Track Beast
« Last post by luciano136 on 01/18/18 05:10PM »

If you do some research, you'll find it's pretty common for track bikes to be sold without titles.  A lot of these bikes have often been off the streets for a long time (and should never be registered again as they are not street legal to begin with).  When he sends you the VIN, that's most likely what you'll find.  I don't even know who would register a bike that will never be ridden on the street to begin with.

My 2 cents, if you have some kind of concern about legality and/or DMV, I would buy a registered street bike and convert it to a track bike.  Of course, it will cost several thousands more to do so...
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Bikes For Sale / Re: FS 2008 CBR1000RR Track Beast
« Last post by BCMC on 01/18/18 04:41PM »
Yes There is a VIN & Engine Number. Please feel free to text me and I will gladly send you photos of them.

Jason Lauritzen's old AFM Bike. Has a handful of trackdays between a friend and I. Friend had it for awhile, now it's back in my garage and for sale.

If there is a VIN, etc then legally, the transfer should be done with titles and not just a Bill of Sale. Transfer without paying the appropriate fees (no matter how outrageous or unwanted they may be) can be viewed by a DMV as defrauding, or at the very least, criminal in nature to some degree.

Just because it's been sold back and forth a few times between friends, doesn't lessen the legal liability for an interested party like me. And my job doesn't allow ignorance or misguided friendly advice as legal alibies.

Post the info for ALL prospective buyers as it shouldn't be some kind of withheld info or secretive. Thanks!

(I'll be in touch soon. Thanks in the interim.)
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: US Moto Industry news...
« Last post by r0ckrat on 01/18/18 04:09PM »
Here's another article on the topic...

http://www.motorcycle.com/features/give-a-shift-trying-to-help-save-the-motorcycle-industry.html

Give A Shift: Trying To Help Save The Motorcycle Industry
Kickstarting a needed conversation

"Give A Shift is the punny name given to an initiative intended to forward the cause of motorcycling in the U.S. market, which is showing signs of shrinkage due to a variety of reasons: demographic, cultural, and systemic.

Spearheaded by Robert Pandya, a moto industry stalwart in public relations and marketing, GAS is bringing together all interested parties to identify problems and to come up with possible solutions. All voices are desired, from newbie millennials to veteran industry personnel and stakeholders.

The first GAS conference was held last November, with a panel of 25 individuals from diverse backgrounds, including yours truly. A follow-up gathering was assembled last week.

Flattening motorcycle sales will have a profound impact on the transpo-tainment aspects of motorcycling that we’re passionate about. Baby boomers have girded the moto market for decades, but their collective influence is dying off, quite literally. For the motorcycle industry to maintain its current sales volume, particularly here in North America, we need an influx from younger generations." - Continues at link.
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: So glad OCMoto is back
« Last post by Chadonthestreet on 01/18/18 12:14PM »
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Bikes For Sale / Re: FS 2008 CBR1000RR Track Beast
« Last post by hernz on 01/18/18 10:30AM »
Yes There is a VIN & Engine Number. Please feel free to text me and I will gladly send you photos of them.

Jason Lauritzen's old AFM Bike. Has a handful of trackdays between a friend and I. Friend had it for awhile, now it's back in my garage and for sale.
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Bikes For Sale / Re: FS 2008 CBR1000RR Track Beast
« Last post by luciano136 on 01/18/18 10:20AM »

Of course.  Give him a call because he's not on here much at all.

I can appreciate the character reference, but the questions are legitimate, and the info should be provided, for peace of mind.
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"UNOFFICIAL" Rides / Re: GMR Ride - Sunday, 1/21/18
« Last post by Malkey on 01/18/18 07:28AM »
I might be up there this Sunday, but taking a different route coming straight up 39. If you see a blue Tiger 800 with MALKEY on the pate come say hello.   
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Bikes For Sale / Re: FS 2008 CBR1000RR Track Beast
« Last post by BCMC on 01/18/18 04:15AM »
I can appreciate the character reference, but the questions are legitimate, and the info should be provided, for peace of mind.


I can vouch for the man.  He's a regular at Chuckwalla and I bought his R6 last spring. 

Is there a VIN on the frame, or engine anywhere?

History of ownership?

The mods look impressive, but I don't want any legal headaches..

Thanks!
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