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Title: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 12/09/12 04:25PM
saw this: winch assisted motorcycle loading -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znM7ZPONGow

cliff notes: buy a 2000lb winch from harbor freight for $80, wireless remote for $25 a soft loop strap from harbor freight for $10, let the winch pull your bike as you slowly guide it

I want to do this, except I would put the winch on the floor of the bed so I can still use my bed cover...any problem with a winch cable dragging against a tailgate?

would the cable fray and break?

good? bad? genius?

Todd - can you help me install this in the F150?
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 04:28PM
Sounds like fun, I drink Bud Light! :29:
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 05:05PM
Thinking if you mount it on the bed once you get it up th ramp it will be binding pulling down at that angle, Maybe build a vetricle arm that mounts to the bed on a base plate thats portable. That way its not always in the way as you have limited room with the natural gas tank already! Or make a plate that mounts on the lip of your bed below the rear window Maybe $30:00 to $50:00 for some 2" square tubing and steel plate, Maybe get one of my brother Ironworkers to pick me up some scrap on the job. We can weld it up here!
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: Mud on 12/09/12 05:14PM
What are you guys loading on a truck that 2 people can't load?
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 05:26PM
I just like building stuff! :32:
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: H-2 Charlie on 12/09/12 05:46PM
 Having a toyota and a big ford , i like a small trailer about 12-15 inches high with a chock up ft - a true one man load .
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: winters on 12/09/12 06:04PM
I work in the film production industry...  On shoots all the various departments live off rolling carts, many of which weigh more than a bike.  Over the years I've seen many winch + ramp into van/truck DIY builds, all of which work great.

However, with a bike, assuming it's a running bike, why not walk the bike up the ramp while slipping the clutch?  I've done this for years solo, without incident.  Just be sure to secure the ramp to rear bumper with a strap, so it doesn't slide out.

Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 06:06PM
He has a full size p\u with big tires and like me is not a big guy. It seems whenever I need to transport my bike theres no one around, If built portable and easy to mount it would be useful in some situations. But again, I just like building stuff!
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 06:09PM
I work in the film production industry...  On shoots all the various departments live off rolling carts, many of which weigh more than a bike.  Over the years I've seen many winch + ramp into van/truck DIY builds, all of which work great.

However, with a bike, assuming it's a running bike, why not walk the bike up the ramp while slipping the clutch?  I've done this for years solo, without incident.  Just be sure to secure the ramp to rear bumper with a strap, so it doesn't slide out.
I have a ATV ramp, Thats how I do it also but unloading by yourself still sucks!
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: winters on 12/09/12 06:12PM
I'm all for building stuff... I have a F350 and use a "apple box" (more film gear) as a step up so I can walk (drive) the bike into the bed.  Unloading with the front brake.   And I still need to backup to an incline to step from ground, to apple box, to bed.

Apple box - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=99401&is=REG&A=details&Q=


Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 06:23PM
 Tranporting street bikes is always scary, 99% of scratches on my bike are from transport or moving it around the frkn garage.
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: Throttle Chopper on 12/09/12 06:30PM
On the floor of the bed, the winch will likely drag especially when the bike is at the foot of the ramp.  If the edge of your ramp overlaps the edge of your bed it may just rub on that, but if it has a sharp lip you can buy a rubber edge protector that can be applied with adhesive to protect the cable from fraying.
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 06:57PM
Once the bike is on the bed the cable will come to a 45 degree angle or more and impede on the front fender and wheel,  Winch must be elevated or its a recepe for disaster! :36:
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: Throttle Chopper on 12/09/12 07:07PM
Good point.  With the investment you're putting in of $115 plus the potential hazards of loading into a pickup bed solo, if you've already got a trailer hitch on your truck, you can buy a 4' x 8' utility trailer for about $300 at Harbor Freight, modify it for motorcycle duty with a wheel chock(s), a 3/4" sheet of MDF, and some eye hooks for another $100 or so and load your bike in confidently with a trailer that has a deck height of 10" or so.  No scratches, no winch needed, and you'll have plenty of room in the bed of the truck to line it with tarp and use as a hot tub!  O0   
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: mbstr on 12/09/12 07:27PM
Apt wth no garage, Im Currently  storing his dirt bikes. Blavech is working hard long hours n saving his ass off so he can marry his sweety, YOU GO DUDE!!!! :27:
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 12/10/12 02:29PM
yep, Todd's got my story straight...

I've dropped my FZR about 4 times trying to load it...one time I clutched it too much, it shot forward, crashed into the front of the bed and fell sideways...another time it shot out the ramp underneath me, another time, I lost momentum halfway, revved the bike, did a burnout and the bike slid off the side of the ramp, another time I lost momentum halfway, lost balance and watched 450lbs of newly faired 1995 Yamaha go 4 feet straight into the pavement :(

I'm not too worried about the front fender of the bike, because I could just put a canyon dancer bar harness (with the CUPS...not the straps on the grips) on the bars and the cabling would clear the fairings and the fender

I think this can be done!!

but yeah, I street park, so no trailer...and I always load/unload when nobody's around...I'd like to do be able to do it myself.
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: FlyingScotsman on 12/10/12 03:01PM
http://loadallmotorcycleramps.com/index.html

 :26:
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: RickRacer on 12/10/12 03:59PM
Have wondered if one of these would work:
http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-ton-capacity-pickup-truck-crane-with-cable-winch-37555.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-ton-capacity-pickup-truck-crane-1647.html
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 12/30/12 10:41PM
http://loadallmotorcycleramps.com/index.html

 :26:

very cool! but for $1,800-$2,200...that's over double what my bike is worth!

I'm looking for a low-cost option that allows me to keep my bed cover when I'm not using the winch (hence why those pickup truck cranes won't work, but thanks though)

budget ~$150 = winch, mounted in the bed, and wireless remote control
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: Infidel R6 on 12/30/12 10:54PM
A small roller on the edge or just use chafing gear to keep the cable safe. Nylon cable is always my preference but just my opinion. Good luck.
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 12/30/12 11:29PM
I figured the same...tail gate also has a plastic edge, so there isn't a whole lot of drag\
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 02/28/14 07:24PM
sorry to bump this again...but I'm not crazy

there's already a product used to do this...just get a "cargo buddy" with the winch mount, and attach it to the front of your truck bed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3XlGZGlIIk

or you can adapt your own winch mount and pull heavier bikes like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOlg1ghW8bI

here's an F-150 adapted to accept a winch in the front of the truck bed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qyUoT39S5s

and a 1700lb Warn winch (not the harbor freight variety) is $109:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/warn-12v-dc-utiltiy-winch-1700-lb?cm_vc=-10005

once I finish my dirtbike setup (install 2 removable chocks, install 5 d-rings), I'm seriously considering a custom-fab to fit a winch into the bed, in front of the CNG tanks to pull up my street bike...that way I can self-load when I do track days, or "drop myself off" when I get servicing done on the truck, or the bike
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 04/03/18 03:43PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/D1MkTq-oH1Y
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: breakdirt916 on 04/03/18 07:49PM
kinda works...gotta make sure the cable has tension and spools up straight...

http://www.youtube.com/v/exn2-8T-EXc

and I need a better place to tie the front of the bike

on a light dirt bike, it's easier just to run and push it in HAHA
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: Snapshot on 04/04/18 06:19AM
Good work!  Looking forward to seeing how you get it all done up.

Ride on,

J~
Title: Re: winch assisted motorcycle loading?
Post by: FastMoto on 04/04/18 07:42AM
That is a interesting and cool project!!!

Being vertically challenged, loading up the bike on the back of the truck after a day of riding can be a PIA at times. One time in particular, I had a pretty good get-off out on the trails, I managed to limp back to the staging area and realized I was too sore to safely load the bike. If it wasn't the kind assistance of others at the trailhead, I would have just stared and wished the bike was loaded.