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Title: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: sgt_0331 on 06/28/18 05:02PM
I have had the luxury of riding several different motorcycles and tires ranging from metzlers, Dunlop, Michelinís etc . But this is the first time I am riding them with beads in them. Whatís is your opinion on them ?  :17: so far I didnít feel any vibration and took them to 100 mph, until I ran straight up to the tail of a CHP unmarked suv  :21:
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: OOTV on 06/28/18 07:20PM
Being that I change and balance my own tires, I prefer not to have to deal with beads, particularly when changing the tire. Although it can sometimes take a little more time to get some tires balanced with traditional wheel weights, I have found that once I did get then balanced, I never have to worry about them. I have been doing a lot of track time lately and have to say that 100+ MPH is the norm on most straights and I have never had an issue (knock on wood). The best part of the latter is, no CHP performance awards have ever been handed to me.
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: paul13131313 on 06/29/18 08:59AM
I'm going to stick with the block weights. Beads are a mess according to my shop and I don't need any more interaction with the CHP than normal. Interesting side effect!
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: 1fastrider on 06/29/18 11:30AM
had them once before. didn't notice any diff but I'm not doing the changes myself so..
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: luciano136 on 06/29/18 12:34PM

Interesting concept.  Would the beads cause any wear on the inside of the tire? 
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: venomenon83 on 06/30/18 11:49AM
I use beads... wheel looks clean and no more sticky tape residue. Just donít try to insertsíem through the valve stem.
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: sgt_0331 on 06/30/18 01:21PM
So I have put about 130 miles on the new tires and no vibration yet. I like the clean look. As to being a mess well I wonít be taking them off myself. Rather pay to have them taken off and put back on. And as to wearing out the inside I donít think so since they are non metallic and they would swirl around the rubber not the rim.
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: xDJXKLUSIVEx on 07/05/18 10:18AM
Beads are the way to go, I have been using them for 6 or so years now and wont go back. I do my own tires and they are NOT a mess unless you suck at changing tires lol.

sgt_0331 = jerry?
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: venomenon83 on 07/05/18 04:17PM

Interesting concept.  Would the beads cause any wear on the inside of the tire?


This are super fine beads, I highly doubt itíll damage the inside wall of your tire.

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah205/jantjesurabaya/8ACD7498-B40E-4B2A-8B26-3AF8A2A4A003_zpsakxox1xk.jpeg~original)
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: BCMC on 07/08/18 08:38PM
Beads are the way to go, I have been using them for 6 or so years now and wont go back. I do my own tires and they are NOT a mess unless you suck at changing tires lol.

Yup...  Done track days with them.  Always leaves tech inspection scratching their heads!
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: Klaus on 07/11/18 08:04PM
I've maxed the bike out at GPS-confirmed 193 with the internal beads. I didn't run name brand either, I went with non-biodegradable alternatives and have been reusing my set for 4 years in at least 7 tires.  Burnouts, Whoolies, track days, commute, canyon, low-speed, and high-speed.

Modern wheels / bearings / name-brand tires are so light it hardly even matters to balance them in the first place.  '80's 3-piece steel rims with tubes and steel-belted radials, now that's another story.

The largest effect is a tire that isn't out of round.  If you lock up the rear repeatedly you'll have flat spots.  If you drop the front wheel at 120 while riding out a wheelie for 30 seconds, you actually lose a small portion of the front tire and a puff of smoke from a recording third person will confirm it.
Title: Re: Balancing the tire : beads vs the old fashion block tags
Post by: Don on 07/14/18 09:41AM
I have been running Dyna beads now for 10 years in my R6 that has over 73,000 miles.  First few years I had a shop mount tires and they had no issues with the beads.  I then started mounting tires myself and was easily able to recover beads to use in next set of tires.  Never even know they were there and no annoying stick-on weight glue to clean after each tire change.